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 Monday June 30, 2008 14:16 by Laura Broxson - National Animal Rights Association naracampaigns at gmail dot com PO Box 11019, Dublin 2
 Another protest was organised outside the Pearl Brasserie restaurant (20 Merrion Street Upper, Dublin 2), on Saturday 28th June.
It was a successful demonstration, and as always we received support from passers-by. Even customers of the restaurant took leaflets going in.  We are currently not accepting any more comments on this article. printable version
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100The gardai should investigate the restaurant. Foie Gras production is banned in Ireland on cruelty grounds. If an Irish farmer wanted to torture animals the way Foie Gras geese are treated he would be prosecuted. But the owners of the Pearl Brasserie insist on importing it.
Why do the guards try to intimidate protesters when they should be stopping animal cruelty?
Why does the government not stop foie gras imports?
The restaurant is not breaking any laws - what a stupid comment,
"why dont the guards investigate the restaurant."
Investigate what - the good food and ridiculously expensive prices
The production is banned in ireland but not importation so no illegal activity there pal.
God people on this website are worse than BB, you will moan about anything.
The Protesters were not doing anything wrong.
Yet the police tried to intimidate them.
Why don't the police act this way towards the restaurant owner? You know why...
Why did you give the Gardaí your details?
Why do the cops want protester's details in the first place? Does that protest constitute an illegal gathering? I wouldn't have thought so, it's just creepy to me that the cops would want to take a citizen's details in that manner, I'm not sure about it. Where are we going, should we expect to get fingerprinted for holding up a placard in a public place? I don't understand. Someone bring me wide on this please.
As stated you are obliged to provide your name and address to a garda upon request. This applies to everyone in the state. The law is the rule of law which most citizens live by except the few who feel they are above this.
Just as a garda is obliged to give their name and id number if requested to do so we are obliged to give our details. This is the basis on how the country works otherwise it would be anarchy.
Imagine the scenario - its 3am I am stopped at a garda checkpoint on a country road, am asked my name and destination and refuse to give it - what will end up happening most likelt an arrest on charges of failing to obey a garda instruction.
Give this crap a break, the gardai are there to protect honest hardworking citizens not the minority of scroungers who feel that the world is out to get them. Most people in ireland today cannot afford to think like that cos they dont have mommy or daddy to back them or the dole to support thier lazy lifestyle
Apart from the circumstance you describe where the Road Traffic Acts provide the authority for Gardaí to request Driver I.D. & Licence etc -
Show us the law, and the circumstances, which says 'you are obliged to provide your name and address to a Garda upon request'.
The Public Order Act - gives the gardai the power to request information from members of the public when they determine that there may be a public order issue.
And before you start- it is wide ranging and subject to garda discretion and reading of the situation
In the case of most of the offences under this Act, if a Garda suspects you of being involved, you are obliged to give your name and address if asked. In fact, it is an offence if you fail to do so. You may be arrested without warrant if you fail to give your name and address.
You are obliged to give your details to a Garda under the road traffic act of you are the driver of a vehicle and stopped at a checkpoint or whatever. Presumably so they can check you have a valid licence which is particularly relevant from today onwards. Passengers in the car are under no obligation to do so.
Other than that, the only time you have to give your details is if you are being arrested for something! Yes folks, it is still a relatively free country and you are perfectly entitled to go about your law abiding business without any sort of police harassment. As the protestors here were not under arrest, the did not have to give their details an presumably chose to do so as they had nothing to hide whatsoever.
As for:
"Give this crap a break, the gardai are there to protect honest hardworking citizens not the minority of scroungers who feel that the world is out to get them. Most people in ireland today cannot afford to think like that cos they dont have mommy or daddy to back them or the dole to support thier lazy lifestyle"
It is my understanding that the gardai are employed to protect all citizens, whether "scrounger" or not! And what do "scroungers" have to do with this discussion anyway? Or how much money a person has, or whether they are on the dole, have a mammy or daddy, or a re lazy or keep fit fanatics??? Sticking to the topic of discussion would be appreciated.
I agree, incidentally, that the restaurant should be investigated, as they/their staff have made threats and been physically abusive on previous occasions, towards honest hardworking citizens going about their business in a law abiding manner.
is wrong
As stated under the public order act you are obligied to give your detaisl to the gardai
states the following
"I agree, incidentally, that the restaurant should be investigated, as they/their staff have made threats and been physically abusive on previous occasions, towards honest hardworking citizens going about their business in a law abiding manner."
Like a lot of waffling on this website there is a lot of words and no proof or evidence. Make the complaint to the gardai, show the evidence and then we will see who is telling the truth
We can do this all day so here is a link for anyone who wants to check it out:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/cr...eland
You are obliged to give your details if you are up to no good. The protestors here clearly were not as they were not prevented from holding the protest. They were not being threatening, abusive, violent, causing a riot, menacing passers-by for money, or any of that sort of nasty stuff. They were just having a totally legal, peaceful protest and had nothng to hide.
It is my understanding that a complaint was made to the gardai on the occassion I mention. I was not there myself so cannot provide proof (quite how one would do so here I am not sure in any case)
Perhaps someone who was there could give more details if they read this???
Annoyed, you still don't explain what you were on about with all the dole/mammy/daddy stuff.... if that's not waffle I don't know what is!
(1) In YOUR opinion they were not doing anything as mentioned in the terms of the public order act. However it is the gardai's opinion that counts. The question asked was under what law are people required to give details. Just because you dont agree with the law or its interpretation does not mean that it was illegal to ask for details from protestors.
(2) Please respond to my post regarding the proof you have of the intimidation by restaurant staff? No answers, indeed even if prooof is there it is the individual that should be investigated not the restaurant.
If you don't like the food dont eat it, in a free and fair society that people like you proport to agree to, we have the right to choose to eat foie gras if we want to, you have no right to stop me eating it if I please, I have made the decision that I dont care how it's produced cos it just tastes so damn good
"It is my understanding that a complaint was made to the gardai on the occassion I mention. I was not there myself so cannot provide proof (quite how one would do so here I am not sure in any case)"
You were not there yet you know it happened, yet you cannot explain how proof can be given. Well you did say that intimitation and threatening behaviour was made. If you werent there and cant understand how to proove it and indeed are not even sure that a complaint was made then why bring it up
As for my comments re dole etc it is borne from sheer frustation of being faced constantly with protest re this and that from seeminlg y the same people who when i question them about how they can afford to be professional protestors I usually get a fuck off if I am lucky. I apologise if it offended anyones feelings but like a lot of this website, the majority dosnt care because the majoirty live in the real world of high prices, high mortgages, rising unemployment and yet we constantly see projects like the M3 held up be people who seemingly live off air and when people want to go and enjoy a rare night out they are now hassled over that also.
I will respect your views when you respect my right to eat what I want so long as I am not breaking the law
Since you talk of intimidation; no doubt the people who work at the restaurant feel their livelihoods are on the line simply because they offer on the menu some [LEGAL] food, the production of which other people disagree with.
They have a right to be intimidated. The aim of this protest, as stated by the protesters, is to bully the restaurant into taking the offending item off the menu. The explicit threat is that the protest will continue until the restaurant is forced to closed and everyone loses their job.
Can you blame them for calling the Gardai? Sure, most right-thinking people might think, this has to be against the law, to harrass our staff and customers? To threaten our very livelihood? I'm sure they were surprised when they found out it wasn't. And I'm sure the motivation fo the Gardai in attempting to move on the protestors were that they saw how grossly unfair and ugly this tactic is.
And for what? For selling something that's perfectly legal. Why should the restaurant give in to your demands or close down, just because you disagree on an opinion of the morality of the production of a foodsource?
This is no better than Youth Defence intimidating staff and clients at clinics which offer abortion information.
There are plenty of options open to you to get the sale of foie gras banned in Ireland. Lobby your elected representatives, raise awareness with stalls etc. Get restaurant owners who are sympathetic to your cause to highlight their opposition.
This ugly, hateful, nasty campaign is not designed to get foie gras banned here. It's a vindictive, cowardly act perpetrated on the easiest of targets to satisfy nothing more than the bloodlust of the religious-like animal welfare zealots.
Arthur,
Once again I see that when real ordinary people give their views that the serial protestors go to ground.
I agree with everything you have just said
(1) As they were not so much as asked to stop th protest, nor told not to do it again, I think it is safe to assume that they were not guilty of any wrong-doing. I ever said it was illegal to ask for personal details incidentally. I can ask anyone in say, a pub, for their name and phone number if I want to and it's not illegal to do so. Neither is it illegal for them to refuse though!
And what's this about me not agreeing with the Public Order offences act??? Or its interpretation??? Where did you drag that idea up from??? I welcome a good argument as much as anyone else, but don't appreciate words being put in my mouth, so to speak.
(2) My response is above. Hopefully someone who was there will read and reply. You are right however - it is the individual/individuals who should be investigated - I could have phrased that better I suppose, but thought it was fairly clear what I meant as you can't really accuse an inanimate building of being abusive or threatening. If indeed you did, and the aforementioned building were to refuse to give its details, I suppose the buildingwould be commiting an offence. Sorry to have confused you Annoyed.
As for : "If you don't like the food dont eat it, in a free and fair society that people like you proport to agree to, we have the right to choose to eat foie gras if we want to, you have no right to stop me eating it if I please, I have made the decision that I dont care how it's produced cos it just tastes so damn good"
I would first like to know what exactly you mean by "people like me".
Secondly, yes I do indeed agree to a free and fair society. You apparently do to. You do currenlty have the right to eat foie gras. Have you ever been prevented from doing so? Did one of the protestors rush in and grab your mouthful of diseased liver from your fork? I think not. The protestors have just as much right to picket this place peacefully as you do to eat the stuff they are objecting to. Get over it. They are doing you no harm.
Yes it is legal to sell and eat foie gras here, although not to produce it. And it is illegal to sell in many places, although not here (yet). It is also perfectly legal to do many other things which are ethically questionable, in many places. Just because something is legal does not make it morally right, and vice versa. The fact that you don't care about the suffering involved does not mean that others don't.
"As they were not so much as asked to stop th protest, nor told not to do it again, I think it is safe to assume that they were not guilty of any wrong-doing. I ever said it was illegal to ask for personal details incidentally. I can ask anyone in say, a pub, for their name and phone number if I want to and it's not illegal to do so. Neither is it illegal for them to refuse though"
Catlady,
It is not safe to assume anything. The original question asked was what law obligied citizens to give details to the gardai and I answered and another poster said this wasnt the case. Your example of nightclub asking is childish, you are not a law officer requesting details the simple fact is that it is an offence to refuse to give your details to a garda when requested because the garda has formed the opinion that you are doing something that warrants being asked for your details.
I met a garda last evening when I was out walking and and said hello and walked by. Why wasnt I asked for my details because I wasnt doing anything wrong.
It is your opinion that foie gras is produced cruelly, you are wrong to state that production is illegal. It may be banned here but if its on sale in a top class establishment it obviosuly isnt illegale to sell it here.
Let people make their minds up by the means Arthur outlined. Do you not think it is intimidating to have a bunch of epople shouting and ranting at you as your enter a restaurant for a night out?
Again Catlady, dont assume anything, garda powers are estenvise and are not used lightly they are there to protect society and citizens and people should applaud gardai for the dnagers they face everyday in protecting us rather than engage in this sort of idiotic ranting about things. It isnt going to save one little goose
It is also perfectly legal to do many other things which are ethically questionable, in many places. Just because something is legal does not make it morally right, and vice versa. The fact that you don't care about the suffering involved does not mean that others don't.
Right back at you
Just because this protest is legal does not make it morally right to ruin someones night out, threaten jobs etc
The fact that you and a few others care about how foie gras is produced does not mean that others do. If they did the streets would be full and the restaurants empty and production would cease wouldnt it
Eh?? What do you mean? Who has gone to ground?
There seems to be some confusion as to what protestors do when they are not out protesting. It depends on the individual. Protests (by this group) are generally on on Saturdays as it is obviously difficult for people to get out mid-week due to work commitments. I assure you that all of the ones I know lead busy lives - from school goers to college students to teachers or researchers like myself. Some are retired and some are "stay-at-home-mothers". And all live in the same Ireland with rising mortgage costs, prices and so on.
I'm not surprised you are met with a hostile attitude if you go around asking disparaging questions such as how an individual can "afford to be a professional protestor" to be honest. With all due respect, my finances are my own business and so is what I choose to do on a Saturday! How would you react if I were to stop you on your way into a restaurant and ask how you could afford to be a professional restaurant-goer??? I'm sure you would tell me to F off too!
It seems to me that you are jumping to ill informed conclusions about people. I have been on various protests with this group, and all we do to people entering an establishment is to politely offer them a leaflet. If they refuse, we say ok. We do not ask them anything personal and we welcome any discussion of the issue if they wish to engage in it. Were we abusive or threatening we would be stopped by the Gardai and possibly arrested. Not once has either of these two things happened.
Arthur.... please tell me where this "explicit threat" you speak of is??? And what is this talk of closing the restaurant down??? You have either missed the entire point of the protest, or are wilfully misrepresenting NARA. The point is to get them to stop selling fatty diseased liver, not to close the restaurant down or put anyone who works there out of a job!
Also, the Gardai did not attempt to move them on. Had they attempted to do so, they would easily have succeeded! Peaceful protest is entirely legal in this country! Are you against all protests as a matter of principle or just this one??? If you saw a group protesting about, for example, Pennys using child labour, or Woody's selling Israeli goods, would you also declare it as harassment of the staff of these establishments??? Perhaps you feel that peaceful protest should be banned. Perhaps you should lobby your elected representative to have it banned. My advice is not to waste your time, as if it actually worked, nobody would need to hold a protest in the first place!
Another long rant that never answers the key points.
And I also see another cherry for this website - you managed to mention Israel - maybe the foie gras is another vast world jewish conspiracy.
On this thread, you have made points that when questionedou step back and say "Well i wasnt actuallty there " (i am paraphrasing)
Then you "assume" things , think a complaint has been made etc etc etc
As for politely asking restaraunt goes to take a leaflet come on dont tell bare faced lies.How can a group of people holding extreme pictures on placards and shouting be deemed polite?
You agree then with serial protesterselling people to f off when questioned. I said my post was born from frustration from the serial protestors. And I feel I have a right to ask questions of people who seem to have no known source of income or job yet can "protest" 24/7 blocking developments. It was a post that was general and not specific to this protest but take from it what you will as I dont really care.
Again as I said, if people cared about this the resaurants empty and the streets full but the aint so - what does that tell you
... as work beckons...
to get back to the original offence for not giving details question. Yes you do have to give them if a garda thinks you are up to no good. They can and do however ask for them on occassions such as this even if you are not up to no good.
As I said I have been on many protests, the gardai are often present either at our request (if we have been threatened with violence) or at the request of the people we are protesting. Sometimes they ask for details, sometimes they don't. I have never ever been threatened with arrest, warned, moved on or "told-off" for protesting. Why? because I was not doing anything wrong and causing no trouble.
I have great respect for the vast majority of the gardai. Rarely have I come across one who was not sympathetic to the cause I was highlighting, or one with whom I could not have a laugh as the protest continued. Once again, people here are jumping to the conclusion that I have a problem with authority or do not respect the laws of the land simply because I go on protest about issues I feel strongly about.
Why on earth would i have any problem with the Gardai anyway??? They are the only ones who can ensure I don't get beaten up every time I go on a protest for goodness sakes!
your convoluted points are so full of hypocracy I keep missing points
"With all due respect, my finances are my own business and so is what I choose to do on a Saturday"
Where someone chooses to go and do and eat and is perfectly within the law should be theie business not yours.
Why not go and protest outside when the restaurant is closed. the message is the same but you wont ruin anyones night out and you will still get your message to the public.
You also stated that foie gras is fatty diseased liver - well if it is why do the relevant authorities allow the sale of dieseased food? Answer- it isnt diseased , . Stop telling lies about the foodstuff, it isnt diseased.
Foie Gras, as served at the Pearl Brasserie, is made from the forcibly enlarged livers of ducks and geese.
The Pearl Brasserie's delicacy is made by a process called Gavage, whereby a long metal pipe is rammed down the throats of these ducks and geese, two or three times per day, to force feed them large amounts of grain. This soon results in their livers swelling to up to ten times their normal size – a symptom of a serious disease called hepatic lipidosis.
That's HEPATIC LIPIDOSIS just in case you missed it.
"Force feeding quickly results in birds that are obese and in a pathological state, called hepatic lipidosis, or fatty liver disease. There is no doubt that in this pathological state the birds will feel very ill."
Dr. Ian Duncan, Professor of Applied Ethology, University of Guelph, Canada.
During an investigation into this process, a New York state wildlife pathologist who examined foie gras animals said, "If this kind of thing was happening to dogs, it would be stopped immediately."
He expressed horror at their "greatly enlarged livers, the product of overfeeding by force (livers are easily torn by even minor trauma)," and at one duck's "laceration of the liver with hemorrhage into the body cavity. This type of treatment and farming of waterfowl is outside the acceptable norms of agriculture and sane treatment of animals."
Many New York veterinarians signed a statement that foie gras production should be outlawed because foie gras is nothing but the serious liver disease hepatic lipidosis: "Animals in this condition would feel extremely ill .... Foie gras production, by definition, constitutes clear-cut animal cruelty."
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/foiegras-peta.html
So that's what you are eating at the Pearl Brasserie, and supporting the import of.
Don't say you weren't told.
The photo above shows the comparison between a healthy liver and the liver used to make foie gras.
The production and import of Foie Gras is covered in European Council Directive 98/58
"No animal shall be provided with food or liquid in a manner (...) which may cause unnecessary suffering or injury."
Council Directive 98/58/EC of 20 July 1998.
In the ten years since the directive, many countries have banned production of Foie Gras. These countries include Ireland.
As I said the food isnt diseased, its enlarged but surely if it was diseased and a danger to public health it would be banned
it isnt so to quote catlady
"It is safe to assume" that it isnt diseased.
Your prejudices are blinding you and making unable to read- Foie Gras is DISEASED LIVER.
The Pearl Brasserie is serving it, importing torture so rich people can eat diseased food, and you are defending it.
It is sick.
If it were diseased and a health risk to humans then it would be banned but it aint
Your radical beleifs blind you.
Animals and birds and fish were created by God to provide food for humans- survival of the fittest.
It's my money and my life and I can and will spend it on any food that is legal
It is banned in many places and production of it is banned here, that's why the sickos at the Pearl Brasserie have to import it.
Things get banned because people protest. All sorts of things used to be legal - presumably idiots used to go around saying that it was okay to keep slaves and beat their wives and have children working in factories because these practices were not (then) banned by law.
The import of this diseased torture food will be banned, as it breaks EU laws, and it's only the power of the French farming lobby that it is keeping it going (with some support from idiots and sickos in places like Ireland).
As for God providing animals for your use, I'll leave that with you. I guess God tells you His will on an individual, one-to-one basis, so I don't want to intrude.
That charming youtube video on the NARAwebsite.Of a bunch of noisey hecklers screaming outside the Pearl B and then ending with footage of the owner.What is this video implying??Here is the mark get him and do him in any chance you can?????Not of course that NARA would do anything like that...In the same way Shin Fein never comitted any PIRA bombings.Animal rights groups have their own terrorist groups like ALF,ARM and Justice Dept to do their dirty work for them.
Anyways,I will go off and have some of this fine French cusine one day.Anyone try stop me had better have their Health insurance up to date.
I think you'll find the owner of the Pearl Brasserie was videoing the protest. Ever think to ask him why?
Doesn't matter anyway- this gruesome "delicacy" derived from torture and disease is disgusting, and anyone who advocates importing it is supporting cruelty and should be ashamed.
my arse
I am not ashamed of anything. I like it , I pay good money (a lots) for it so no I am not ashamed at all thank you very much
If I was him I would be videoing that lot as well.Might want a record of suspects if anything happens to his staff or busisness.There are a lot of fanatics and violent people around these days y'know.
But I think you will find it is a NARA video on Youtube.That is if you could be botherd to check your facts.Only reason this bunch of disaffected teens are hanging round this resturant is they got a response from the owner.Maybe he should get a mosquito teen repeller to clear the area?
Ashamed of what??Eating somthing tasty??Dont think so.
Annoyed
"I pay good money (a lots)" I'm sure you do. And God tells you it's alright to pay a lots of money for this disgusting stuff. The torture and disease involved in its production don't bother you? Well, some of us have higher standards.
WTF
RE. Making videos - why is it disturbing for NARA to video their own protest, but fine if the owner of the Pearl Brasserie makes a video? Prejudice about protesters? Do you think you might be suffering from double standards? Or maybe no standards, since you also think it's fine to eat diseased and enlarged livers of tortured animals.
I think there is another protest coming up at the PEARL BRASSERIE soon, maybe you should go along yourself and make a whining noise to see if that would scare the protesters away? The exercise might do you good.
To Catlady - thanks very much for the citizensinformation.ie link. That sheds a bit of light on the question, hats off.
To Annoyed - it's a shame your reply to comment #4 was removed.
Getting back to the bigger picture, I wouldn't like to eat a tortured animal's internal organs myself which means I wouldn't like to see the product of that process on sale. If anyone actually enjoys eating it then that's their own choice. If it was me I think I'd probably throw up.
Hepatic Lipidosis is just a name. It is called a disease because it is an abnormal condition. It has no ramifications to health. And all the name means is fatty liver (hepatic=liver, lipidosis =fatty). I am sure battery chickens have a wasting disease in their legs, as well as a variety of farmed animals have a wide range of diseases, but there is no concern as there is no effect on human health. You are just over emphasising that it is a disease. So what. A very tasty disease is what it is.
Well, originally we are told it is not diseased, now we have to hear that it IS a disease but it is just a name...
it's a disgusting practice which is banned in Ireland.
I'm not going to respond to all the nonsense that has been posted here, but I will make a few points.
(1) We are not trying to close down the restaurant, we're only trying to get them to stop serving 1 item on their menu - foie gras.
(2) Even though there were a number of heartless comments made by foie gras enthusiasts, I'm sure that most people (whether they are vegetarian/vegan or not) will agree that the production of foie gras is barbarically cruel. And that it is hypocritical for it to be on sale in Ireland, when the production of it is banned here.
(3) Customers going into the restaurant feel comfortable with stopping and talking with us, and many even take leaflets - so either Pearl Brasserie clients are unusually fearless, or perhaps we're not as scary as some people are trying to say we are. I'm guessing that the people who commented with their sympathy for the Pearl Brasserie, and those that feel we are ''bullies'', were equally as outraged when there were protests outside Weir's on Grafton street, regarding the sale of African diamonds.
(4) The police asked for our details, so we gave them, as we have absolutely nothing to hide. We also assumed that you have to disclose your personal details when asked to by the Gardai.
(5) Regarding the incident that happened the first time we protested the Pearl Brasserie, feel free to check with Pearse Street and Harcourt Terrace Garda Stations about what happened. I made an official complaint, and then had to give a statement. After the Gardai who attended on that night were questioned, I was told that we had the option of charging the restaurant owner, Sebastien Masi, with assault. We chose to have him cautioned, and to have the incident put on record.
"I'm sure that most people (whether they are vegetarian/vegan or not) will agree that the production of foie gras is barbarically cruel. And that it is hypocritical for it to be on sale in Ireland, when the production of it is banned here."
Don't be sure of anything Laura, if this were the case you wouldnt need to protest cos it wouldnt be on sale and people wouldnt be going to the place to eat it
People don't care
So why haven't you got any videos on youtube of these"customers going into the resturant feel comfortable with stopping and talking with us-maybe even taking a leaflet"???Surely if that was the case you would have a great piece of footage there??Maybe because it has never happened???
2] It is not up to you wether YOU press charges against a person in Ireland..It is a decision taken by the Garda attending the complaint or incident,as to wether it is a justifiable matter to concern the forces of law.The Gardai can caution somone or apprehend,or arrest and caution. You can arrest somone under the catch all offences against the State Act,detain them,and then release them without charging them with anything.If you arrest somone they must be charged with a crime,in your case it would be common assault,or using words likely to lead to a breach of the peace.They ask you wether you want to press charges which means are YOU personally willing to get into court ,into the witness box,swear under oath that all the above did happen and be cross examined.Without no witness,no prosecution case....Or the Gardai decided quite sensibly to avoid loads of paperwork,orally caution Msr Masi,and leave it at that.
So tell us Laura...WHY ever not???What more great media attention could you have got??Innocent animal libbers attacked by anasty Frenchman?the chance of sending an animal abuser down?? Or you are Really NOT telling us the whole story here are you???
3] Boycott Pearl bras. Double stds??No,not really,seeing that Msuer Masi hasnt gone and put his video on You tube to identify all of you has he??Remove the railway sleeper from thine own eye...
My standards are none of your busisness anyway,seeing I cant say much for yours either,which seems to be of Im morally superior to all and sundry. Yeah,I actuall might show up at this resturant,and make more than a whining noise if I am harrassed or botherd by the likes of you.
.Nothing like working up an appetite before a good dinner.
You're obviously not going to believe anything I say, so I'm not going to waste my time any further by responding to your repetitive questions.
You also clearly have a lot of free time on your hands, maybe you should think of spending it in a positive and productive way? I wonder do you have issues with animal rights campaigners, or activists in general? Either way, maybe you should just take a moment to calm down.
Please do stop by at our next protest - but before you do, why not tell us your real name, instead of hiding behind ''WTF''. Are you afraid we might look you up and hunt you down or something? Don't worry, your comments stir up feelings of pity, not rage.
This will be the last comment I post, so feel free to respond to this with more accusations, questions and personal attacks. Then you and your buddies can celebrate by deluding yourselves into thinking that you've ''won''. Enjoy yourselves!
"People don't care "
you obviously care enough to spend hours on the computer trying to justify this barbaric practice
Annoyed - i don't know why you're such an annoyed, angry and defensive person and i don't care. It sounds to me like your just looking for a fight as you repeatedly mention how people on this website are 'stupid'.
first of all, peaceful protesters are'nt obliged to give their details, they never are. they're entitled to go ahead with their perfectly legal demonstrators as it is peaceful, not obstructing pathways etc.
just because it is law does not make it right.
second of all, foie gras is diseased even if it is not harmful to humans (if you dont count the cholesterol highering, artery blocking fat that it's loaded with) doesn't mean it's not a vile, vomit-smelling dish of crap and he production of it is both barbaric and brutal and should be stopped. it just shows what kind of people ''annoyed and ''wtf'' etc. are when they still eat or defend a dish like this even when they know about it's disgusting produce.
wtf - you were'nt there, so you can't just assume everyone there were teenagers, on the dole etc. so you can stop making assumptions like that just to try and win your argument, it's weak and you're not getting anywhere what age these people are or what money they have is nothing to do with the issue.
the people who were there protesting the vile restaurant >look up how they treated the protesters at the first demonstration< were speaking out for animals who don't have a voice and were trying to right a wrong in this world.
also, the protesters were not violent in anyway so you can drop that altogether...
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comparing the protesters to terrorists how childish, ''wtf''.
N.A.R.A organised a demonstration, stood outside the pearl brasserie peacefully holding placards and shouting chants and handing out leaflets to people who were interested is exactly what happened that day in a nutshell - argue all you want that was it plain and simple.
yet you are comparing this to bombing train stations and flying planes into buldings, people who actually kill are terrorists, better check you're dictionary
It seems to me that your time would be better spent protesting somewhere where it would make a difference. Surely you should be trying to get the sale of this delicious item banned, rather then going after a seller and annoying the general public who mostly couldn't care and wouldnt buy this delicious item anyway because there are so few places to buy this delicious item. So rather than try to get one restaurant to stop the sale of this delicious item, lobby to ban it's import.
But I rather suspect that there wouldn't be sufficient public support for your cause. Perhaps that is why you are reduced to bully tactics to get your own way.
Delicious item? Diseased fatty liver of tortured animal actually. Stop lying to yourself, and don't tell other people how to protest. If you think the is a lot of public support for this disgusting practice then you should organise a support demonstration and see who shows up. See how real life matches your forecasts...
Well, either you haven't tried it or have bad taste because it truly is a delicious item. I encourage everyone to try it.
I never said there was a lot of support for the practice, rather I said that there wasn't alot of support for the ban. To assume that the inverse is automatically my opinion is a logical fallacy. In my opinion there is just a general apathy and if there is sufficient demand for it that an overpriced restaurant will serve it, then perhaps there is more support for it rather than the (what looks like from the photos) 5 people protesting.
As for a counter protest, well, I'm sorry but I will have to decline. Not only do I have a job but I try not to make a fool of myself in public by campaigning for something trivial when there are rather more pressing issues at large in the world today.
And again, it really is delicious. If diseased fatty liver of tortured animal tastes this good then maybe we should be seeing what other parts we can artificially engorge.
How do you know there is not a lot of support for the ban on importing torture foods? As far as I know, a lot of people are simply